320w go faster than a 70kg rider doing 4w/kg, i.e 280w and if so by how much. I’m currently on a journey to lose a lot a weight via dieting and cycling. Thank-you for sharing your journey…Ride On! To get a baseline we did a FTP test which was 348W on a body weight of 93kg (he is a big unit). By February I was able to ride my bike again. Welcome to the Evolution Cycling Club [EVO] high zone 2 base ride. I am average in every sense of the word from an endurance perspective. In the meantime, my power was building up again. In modern fashion, I turned to the Web to find some info on how to care for my bicycle, what trails were good in the area and what kind of bike exercise I should try in order to lose weight. I think that your story and your results are very inspiring for people who want to improve in cycling. MAP was 450W or 4.88w/kg, to put that into perspective an average cat 1 rider in Ireland has a 5 minute power (similar to MAP) of 5.5w/kg with an average A3 rider sitting at 4.4w/kg, in other words Indurain would still perform favourably (at the time of this study) in a straight up 5 minute effort against most riders in the country!! I’d also shaved off two kilos of weight which meant my dramatically improved power to weight ratio to over 4w/kg had transformed my riding. I am a strong “real” B racer and in fact I am able to be slightly above 4W/kg for example on Time Trial. Now, different people will peak at different power. However you have to consider this in the context of the training background. Anxiety-induced eating certainly didn’t help, and I quickly recovered almost all of the lost weight. I get increases from specific workouts, mainly FTP intervals and sweetspot tempo rides. Said goal was to get his FTP to 4W/kg. Funkhouser 2 January 2020 21:08 #11. I’m also wondering if I’ll be able to go over 4 W/kg, but only time will tell. I am a new Zwifter who started at 189w after my first FTP test 3 months ago and now at 200w with a weight of 70kg. Let's make this 4w/kg. I’m close to 4w/kg, having started somewhere close to 3w/kg. I went back to the bottom of the hill and starting pushing the stone upwards again. When going to work, I would get off the bus one or two stops before mine, to add a few blocks of movement. My first one… Read more ». A Mean Maximal Power curve uses your threshold and ride data to tell you how long you can hold a power output for before you fatigue. Best motivating article Love Zwift and zwiftpower.com how can you see exact numbers and real changes, when your weight goes down and your FTP goes up! Up to 230 now. To be honest, I haven’t changed my diet much. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, What workout did you do today? The EMF levels for some of the best baby monitors such as Owlet and Infant Optics DXR 8 emit 0.7w/Kg and 0.221w/Kg respectively. See you all in Watopia, and keep riding on! And I believe the answer is no! “D” which is FTP of 1-2.4w/kg Completing a fitness test like the 4DP power profile or the Half Monty on The Sufferfest app will provide you with the watts per kilogram (Wkg) range needed to accurately select your racing category. As part of this journey, I’ve done the full prudential, 25 laps to the volcano, and an imperial century courtesy of the Vegan Cyclist. Now, as soon as you get a power meter or smart trainer, do that FTP test again so you can have more accurate numbers.… Read more ». My FTP is currently 299 (all time high at my age) and need to get to 308 - 317 FTP depending on weight. I've read that most people if they are diligent about it can get to 4w/kg. I’m far from satisfied as we all are. Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. I was a football/basketball player growing up and was pretty good at those. Don’t really have a long term goal but 300 watts would be pretty cool, especially if it happens at race weight of 60kg. Current FTP is 255 And I am heavier than the OP. Wow 90 watts that’s amazing great job. I always wish I was a little bigger so I could put out more power but it’s just not in my genetics I guess…. Right on .keep it up This is 3.74W/kg. The brakes worked. Zwift has been a big influencer for me so far. All my Zwift friends are long term cyclists who are much faster than me. Make sure you’re hydrated and fueled before you get to the start line. Way better then the 1.5 when I started but that was literally just before my heart attack. Onward and updward my friend! This is way below the 4w/Kg limit set by FCC but is 0.7w/Kg the best and safe? I averaged 294 W over 20 minutes, which gave me the next FTP milestone of 280 W. I was still 2 kg over my weight target, but as I had been losing 1 kg every two weeks for a while, it was only a matter of giving it another month. Thanks Pavel! Well done and thank you, as this is really inspiring article! Badge after badge, my weight started to decrease. I don’t recognize the UI ! My training has been better so far this year but we all know it’s easy to get derailed with work/illness/life and then spend a month getting back to where you were. It was similar when I started. I would say I’m also doing at least 8 or 9 hours per week at the moment. Flo: I think it tells a lot - IF you look at the circumstances : AG: Fast forward three months to the start of the season after completing the ‘Base’ phase plan and my FTP had leapt to 325. ‘It’s all in the game’ Right then, time to get serious. I had an internal milestone every 10 watts, so I went from 220 to 230, then looking forward to 240, and so on. First FTP Test was 186 which put me exactly at 3.0w/kg. I expect to be there by the time I turn 45. I’m sitting around 3.6 and to achieve a 4w/kg I need to be around 300 watts. Although there had been plenty of alarm bells before, this was the final wakeup call that made me re-evaluate my sedentary lifestyle in which I paid very little attention to my dietary and exercising habits. Thanks for your comment! At the beginning, it was mostly doing races that got me in a better shape. Thanks. All is good thou and Cardiologist gave my a thumbs up to push harder. What’s your height, weight and FTP number? The ones that I’m recommending at the moment are polarized intervals. Marcotte weighs about 72.7 kilograms (kg) so his watts per kg (w/kg) for the TT were around 5.4w/kg. I think so, and I’m already working to get there. Then if you get dropped and lose the draft’s 25% power savings, you’ll need to put out 312w just to keep pace with the group. I’m 44 years old and will be 45 in July. And it sucks just as much for me as it does for most. Zwift Insider tested the rolling resistance of the mounting bike on the all dirt Jungle Circuit and found that at 4w/kg, the Zwift MTB bike came in at 13:47 while the Tron bike (the fastest bike on flats) came in right around 15 minutes. It appears I was DQ’ed for hitting 4w/kg for 95% of 20mins. Assuming you can ride for 2 hours, I don't think its an endurance issue. It does seem a bit tougher as we get older. Numbers, I’ll need about 320-330w I estimate to achieve this, approximately 4w/kg, but a few kilos over won’t make any odds here. It shifted. Once you get to 4.0 you’ll want more. The daily differences can be discouraging at times, but the overall trend started to become apparent. Started around the same time about 20 months ago at 2.3. I feel better, cardio is better : lower bpm, i can ride now more than 3h in real. Thomas De Gendt 'may' have been pushing 8.4w/kg on Zwift . I've done over 4 w/kg on a 20 min test on a wattbike. What an inspiring journey! I started zwift without any plan in mind but went from 89 kg, 170 W FTP (1.9) January 18 to today, 80 Kg, 220 W FTP (2.7) and expect to lose some more Kg and gain some W in the next couple of months, hopefully to get to 3 W/Kg! I hope not. Nicely done Alejandro! NormaTec MVP Boot vs. Recovery Pump Boot; New NormaTecs? I’m closing on 42 and pretty sure I’ll get to 4 this season, my first solely focusing on cycling coming from a running and triathlon background. A few days ago – 20 months later and 16 kg lighter – I averaged 298 watts in the first 20 minutes of a Tempus Fugit time trial, which resulted in a new FTP of 283 watts, or 4 w/kg. Your story is very inspiring. if you genuinely have an FTP of over 4w/kg you should really be racing at Cat 2+ level. Thanks for the article. I will kill myself trying that’s for sure. I weighed 90kg and my first FTP was 115w. Secondly, thanks to Zwift grouping riders according to their watt per kilo output - for categories from A to D ranging from 4w/kg to 1w/kg* - there is less chance of you being out of your depth. Get my popular ebook today, to help you on your way! My last FTP test 204W (3,05w/kg) on last monday. The first action I took was to add some walking to my daily routine. To the post author: Kudos! This is 3.74W/kg. That’s a whopping 5.2w/kg, while the guy pulling in the pack is still just doing 4w/kg. Recovery Boots. As I got fitter I was able to do 5 times a week for one hour, and maybe one longer session. Road racing on Zwift, although fun, had started to get a little demoralising – my comparatively hefty 83kg pins my FTP to around 4.4w/kg, meaning that in … Zwift is a rich simulation of outdoor riding in which many variables are taken into account to provide a realistic experience. The training you are doing, might not be the best training for you if … From what I gathered, a power meter was the way to go for taking training to the next level, even if I had no hopes of reaching a high level. The value is higher compared to SAR limits for the head or body. And I view it as manifest destiny. I’m 44 started riding 14 months ago and hover around 4.2-4.3. It’s in the vicinity of 7-8%. Keep up the good work. Amazing product and really enjoying it thanks. I just started Zwift’s Build Me Up training plan, and your article has inspired me to shift my thinking from ‘hopefulness’ to ‘intention’. The answer to the best level lies in understanding first the harmful effects of radiation: 4. The numbers told me little, however, as I had no idea of my FTP. I am new to Zwift races (only 3 and 1 TT). Test your own power output. The book you should read is "Racing and Training With A Power Meter" Honestly if you haven't read that book, I would before you post this question to r/velo. Thanks, but a lot of that was just off the couch gains! For example, if you drop from 86 to 82kg and increase your 20-minute power output from 210 to 235W, your power-to-weight ratio increases from 2.4W/kg to a very respectable 2.9W/kg. Ride On. Actually, get a 2nd pair, so you can wash and let them air-dry, and still ride on back to back days. 165lbs Never have seen it before with a lot of cycling experience, and now more age. Congrats! This story is inspiring, thank you for sharing. The Yellow Leader, a Ride Leader, will join the Race as a Race Leader, and the Sweeper’s Red Beacon will be a Leader in the 3.0 to 3.3 w / kg Steady Group Ride. At that moment your story would have been very helpful to answer that question. 320w go faster than a 70kg rider doing 4w/kg, i.e 280w and if so by how much. Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (. Our club created races on an essentially flat circuit and it appears that everyone goes the same speed for the same w/kg which in reality is nowhere near correct on the flat. Last weekend I hit 4w/kg (301w 75kg). I’m one level shy of getting the aero helmet for a proper time trial setup, in which I shall tackle Tempus Fugit once again for a fresh attempt at a new FTP. Your story is very encouraging, RIDE ON! You are not too old! Our goal here is to focus on w/kg. The tough get going . Thanks for inspiration Alejandro and congrats on the journey! You got this. A lot of people train properly and don’t ever break 4W/Kg so 5 is very ambitious – as others have said, thats getting into the territory of getting paid to ride your bike. My FTP is currently 299 (all time high at my age) and need to get to 308 - 317 FTP depending on weight. The disc wheels were the true last upgrade, though the helmet completes the package for a better look . Is a Normatec really worth it? OK, Sanders is no average triathlete; he held the Ironman world record (7hr 44min) until it was broken by Britain’s Tim Don in 2017. And it sucks just as much for me as it does for most. My all time high is 265, kind of float around 220 -230 in general. Recovery Boots. FTP can be also estimated automatically based o… It felt so defeating when everyone was passing me. This is a significant increase. Now that I find myself at 4 w/kg for the first time, I should soon be racing with the A category on Zwift. How I got to an FTP of over 5w/kg in about 2 years of proper training. Your story is a true inspiration for me.I started Zwift in late December 2019 – . Inspiring story Alejandro! Video: Halfords on how they're keeping staff and customers safe while continuing to stay open . Yes, I've come to that conclusion also. while 6.2W/kg on a 50 minute climb is unlikely to be clean. I searched for articles on how a heavy out of shape guy could get started. LSD helps some but HIT helps more. Hi guys new to TR. Love this article, can’t put into words how motivating it is to read, thank you. Great job on your numbers and thanks for the encouragement. This is the story of my improvement, and how Zwift has been a key part of it. 2. Maybe we should have a ‘losing 3 stone’ club. But you have given me hope. He trains consistently from what I can tell from his Strava and definitely eats reasonably clean. I’m pretty muscular, not a ton of dead weight to drop. 5. On the flat will an 80kg rider doing 4w/kg, i.e. Just for the sake of… Read more », Congratulations on your patience, persistence and ensuing accomplishments! The value is higher compared to SAR limits for the head or body. Is it possible? It will be interesting to see how long it takes to get to 7:00. Average for this ride will be high Category B but it may vary based upon course/leader. New to RC flying? Congratulations you are an inpiration I started 15 feb of 2020 and I have very similar goals… If you’re stuck, you could probably seek advice from a coach that could guide you and choose training sessions that will target the specific skills that you need to go to the next level. Congrats Alejandro!! I will try my best specially now with all this going on with covid-19 I’m a bit disappointed with my FTP as of now. Turning 40 this Friday. In the uphill section, Leader (Yellow or RED Beacon): Sub 3.4w / kg (Not over 3.4w / kg) Yellow Beacon is the last line of the group. Category D– FTP of 1 - 2.4w/kg. 4 w/kg is known as what the average person can get to just by screwing around and riding a lot for a few years, without necessarily including a lot of structure or smart training. I… Read more ». The limit for 10 grams averaged SAR in limbs is 4W/kg. Flo: I think it tells a lot - IF you look at the circumstances : AG: 4w/kg for a pro is definitely possible. Average for this ride will be high Category B but it may vary based upon course/leader. I can’t seem to get over the 3.5 w/kg hurdle. Didn’t find anything, so I had to simply motivate myself. For what it’s worth regarding the aero helmet, I think it’s just cosmetic – it doesn’t change your performance in-game. Keep it going! Can’t believe I would even reach 5w/kg. Around two years ago, on an otherwise regular morning, I was stepping down from the scales after looking at the highest number I had ever obtained: 89.9 kg. To get a baseline we did a FTP test which was 348W on a body weight of 93kg (he is a big unit). Most people get better by becoming more aerobically fit. You’ll need all three. Hi FTP at 248 after a small bump after SSB1 (testing again tomorrow as I just finished SSB2). Would be nice to know about your workouts and hours a week training as improvements depends on that too. Thanks again for your story.… Read more ». I’ve increased pretty steadily to 213w FTP (3.3w/kg). Granted, since I've done about a 1000 races in Europe I have more race craft than most. Only doing 6 hrs per week TR seems like it will not get me there alone. I started with 2 to 4 times a week, usually short sessions, half hour to one hour. I joined Zwift on 10/04/2020, my first ftp on the 12/04 was 196w, I got bumped to 264w not long later, then 274w on the 20/04 (probably my true Wattage). if you genuinely have an FTP of over 4w/kg you should really be racing at Cat 2+ level. We always do. Maybe it’s tied to VO2max? I must say I Enjoy and relate to the articles written by people who are in the mid to back of the pack a lot and find them very inspirational. Nearly 1month in and I now weigh 94kg, have cycled 463km and just about… Read more ». Thanks so much it’s great to hear from ppl in the same boat. Very well done! My goal is 209 lbs. After I saw that I’m like I can do anything I want cycling wise if I focus on it. The power came first, during stage 7 of the 2020 Tour de Zwift. Yes, that feeling of looking at the scales and seeing your lowest weight in a while is very motivating, it helps a lot. while 6.2W/kg on a 50 minute climb is unlikely to be clean. AG: to be totally honest - I am still not convinced that it tells us that much. I’m currently where you were in August 2018 – or maybe September. As I write this, I’ve done all but 3 routes: the Mega Pretzel, the Uber Pretzel, and the Tour of Fire and Ice. Before your first race, a little homework goes a long way. yourself would have a 4.5 or 5 ratio, because its not true, too many factors at play to reach that conclusion, that is more like deluding yourself. Being a highly trained endurance athlete coming into erging, not sure what your potential for improvement is. Puts me at 3.4w/kg I think. I was in a year long plateau at around an FTP of ~265 until I signed up for TR. Family is more of a long term relationship than 4w/kg is :) But I what you are describing I feel many dads struggle with. I notice some of the stronger guys my age are a bit bigger with a bit more muscle mass. I was curious about this as well. This is AMAZING! A lot of people train properly and don’t ever break 4W/Kg so 5 is very ambitious – as others have said, thats getting into the territory of getting paid to ride your bike. Here are some tips. My next target, which I am hoping to hit by christmas, is 250ish watts, and 4w\kg, or as close as I can get. At my height of 169 cm, my BMI of 31.5 put me in the obesity category. I invested in some Garmin Vector pedals and did my first few rides with power. NormaTec MVP Boot vs. Recovery Pump Boot; New NormaTecs? Whatever the case,… Read more ». Pros are tough but riding basically all day at 320-340w doesn't sound realistic to me. I started with Zwift a little over a year ago but was already a pretty good runner who had transitioned to triathlon a year before that. The point, and “golden rule”, is to invest in a very good and perfectly fitted pair of cycling shorts or bibs. I’ve had Zwift for about a year, but when I initially started it was HARD. 5w/kg on a long ride (~3h or longer?) My FTP is 325 at 77kg, last Vo2 max test I did came out as 62ml/kg/min. I’m a small guy at 141lbs. Now, we might have genetic limits which prevent us from getting there, but something like 5% of TR users over 40 are over 4W/kg self reported (TR W/kg age buckets). I have enormous respect for anyone out there working to improve. Zwift provides five group ride and racing categories based on FTP (Functional Threshold Power) and measured in watts per kilo of body weight. Thanks for this. The calculations we used are at the bottom. I train to get better to be better to enjoy riding. Very well done! (5'11) started at 205lbs, down to 160. Currently sitting at 3.5. curious about what you chose for your diet and preworkout food. 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